You'll Never Believe Me But...

You’ll Never Believe Me But… is a lighthearted storytelling podcast about what’s real, what’s fake, and what’s funny. Guests come on and tell two stories, one real one fake, and laugh and joke about it with host Cutter as they enjoy storytelling while he tries to figure out which story is the real one.

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Cutter  00:00

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening everyone. My name is Cutter, though you may know me as three beers in a coat on air on HD one and welcome to this episode of You'll never believe me, but

 

you'll never believe me, but is a storytelling podcast being produced here at WKNC about lying to me. Every episode I have a guest on, they tell me two stories, one real and one fake and I have to decide which is real between them. For those of you that are new here, or for those of you that need a quick refresher, I'm going to run down the three rules we have here before we get into today's episode. Rule number one, your story should not do significant damage to anyone else or their character. We're not trying to be outwardly mean to anyone other than ourselves. Rule number two, if someone else is featured in the story, you must either have their permission to say their name or use a fake name for them. You agreed to come on the show and tell the stories but unless they agreed to have these stories told just use a fake name. And rule number three, and this is the easiest one all story should start with. You'll never believe me but and then a brief synopsis before starting the story, just so we all know what we're getting into. And as a nice little nod to the show's title. So with all that housekeeping stuff out of the way, let's go ahead and get into today's episode. Today's guest is Jamie, Student Media Associate Director and more importantly, WKNC advisor and an all around wonderful person. I've had the pleasure of meeting through my time at WKNC. Jamie, how you doing today?

 

I'm doing great. And most importantly, I am the number one fan of You'll never believe me. But 

 

Aww, well thank you very much you have had access to the show for longer than anyone. 

 

Yes

 

What with you giving me my interview for this position and hearing my pitch for this as I desperately begged you to read it over and over again for two weeks straight. 

 

Yes, I also, I because of my position at WKNC. I get access to the podcast before it becomes live. So I get to listen to it before everyone else. So I get to make my guesses and figure out if I'm right or wrong. And I will say I've said this to you privately. And I will say it to you publicly. I also thought grant was lying in our last episode about his weird trip to Jacksonville on Thanksgiving. So I was with you on that.

 

That makes me feel much better. I didn't feel particularly bad about that one. I'll be honest, I was I was pretty convinced I was pretty convinced. But hey, that's what the show is about. What can you do? Jamie, you have in front of you a physical piece of paper, which as a as a young person in 2021 is something that I have rarely ever seen. Is that that's all your notes.

 

Yes, I have typed up notes. So I make sure that I hit the high points of each story.

 

Mm hmm. May I ask? Are you going to take notes on your notes? You do have a pencil laying beside,

 

I am prepared. If I need to take my notes. I am ready.

 

Hey, I don't blame you at all. I have thought about doing the same physical paper is so astonishing. I think if if anything were to reveal that you are not a college student, that would be the one what with that and your position of power within NC State Student Media. But I'm very excited because that is a full page of notes from over here 

 

it is it's bullet points. But but it is 

 

Hey, plenty of notes. That means plenty of story, which I'm very excited for because we've been talking about getting you on the show as a guest since you read the pitch. 

 

Yes. 

 

And you begrudgingly accepted at first you kept trying to pitch to me other people tha you knew to come on the show. And I was about to drop it. I was like okay, maybe she just doesn't want to come on. Maybe she's self conscious about that sort of thing. But I'm glad I kept pushing because I'm so excited to have you on.

 

Yeah, I have actually I have been crafting these stories and then re changing them and then changing them again. And then I will tell you, as I a couple days ago, I started writing these out and I changed my fake story again. Their, I've actually put quite a bit of thought into this

 

amazing. Well, I'm very excited then because I think the ones that are the most prepared for the ones that are the most exciting sometimes. I mean, not every time naturally. But I know you and I'm I'm very excited to get into the story. So unless you have anything else for me, I'm ready to just jump straight into this. I'm very excited. 

 

I'm ready too

 

All right. Well, Jamie, take it away.

 

You'll never believe me. But I passed out in front of my entire high school gym class.

 

That is exhilarating. I as someone who did take high school gym class kind of recently, would imagine that that would be suboptimal. 

 

It wasn't my favorite. 

 

I can't imagine not but yeah, how do we get there? 

 

Okay, so I kind of have a little history of passing out. Oh, okay. Before we go any further, I do want everyone listening at home to know that I have talked about it with my doctor like I don't have any neurological conditions or anything. It's just something that happens sometimes. So the first time it happened, I was like eight or so. And we were on a field trip to like the local hospital and they went into the blood bank, right? 

 

Oh, no. 

 

And so the the nurse pulls out this bag of blood and I'm like, cool, right? Then she pulls out this bag of plasma. I'm out. I am on the floor. 

 

Amazing. 

 

I am out 

 

Hey your at a hospital. I mean, if ever there were a place.

 

Yes. It wasn't a bad. And of course, like the tour is still going on. So I had to leave the rest of the tour with all my classmates so but um, so this one time though, okay, sure. I pass out in front of my entire class. There's like 30 or so kids in the class.

 

Goodness gracious. Sure.

 

So it's gym class, and I am not the most athletic person. 

 

Sure. 

 

At all. I hate lunges and running and moving. 

 

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Totally fair. 

 

Okay. I hated gym class. I hated my teacher, like so much. 

 

Oh, wow. Okay, sure. 

 

We're gonna call him Mr. Brown. He knows who he is and what he has done.

 

Yeah, Mr. Brown. You heard it here.

 

Yes. Okay. So I didn't I went to a really small school so I didn't have gym class really in like Middle School, I just I went to one room country school house for 9 years

 

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. 

 

So I didn't go to like junior high or anything. 

 

You were just in school. 

 

Just school. And every so often we'd like have to run a mile, like maybe once a month, right. Basically, like walk around the perimeter of the school. Yeah, yeah. So gym was not something I was familiar with 

 

Sure. Sure. 

 

So my freshman year it's a it's a half credit class, but rather than like, you know, half credit in the first part of the semester, and then half credit in the second part of the semester, right. I had it every other day. So it was it was tied with my health class. So okay, for the whole year, I had for the first part, I had gym on like, Tuesdays and Thursdays and then it flipped. So I had it on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 

 

Okay. Yeah, seems that seems extraordinarily complicated. 

 

I guess it was, but I mean, it was the same terrible teacher. So yeah,

 

I think I think that that having that PE teacher that just like, doesn't know how to teach health is such a universal high school experience. 

 

Yeah. And of course, he was also the football coach and I 

 

yeah, that tracks that tracks. 

 

Yeah. So I'm like, trying for valedictorian, right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this.

 

Amazing. 

 

We get our first marking period, and the scores come out and I get a D. 

 

A D?

 

 In gym. 

 

Oh, Jamie!

 

I don't even make the honor roll. Okay. 

 

Oh, my goodness. 

 

I am beside myself.

 

Yeah, absolutely. Okay. 

 

My mom goes to talk to this guy at the parent teacher conference. 

 

Ah, sure. 

 

And he's like, there's people dying of heart disease. And she's like, yeah, there's people can't read and write either. Like, okay, so my I hate him. My mom hates him. We hate him. Sure. 

 

Family beef at this point.

 

But I am not losing my 4.0 on gym class. Okay, 

 

No, absolutely not. 

 

So I'm gonna buckle down. 

 

Sure. 

 

Like, I'm gonna do it. I'm going to get an A in this class.

 

Buckle down for gym class.

 

I hate this, like, I'm gonna try. But I'm gonna make the best of this bad situation. I even volunteered to be like, his teacher's aide like I hated this guy and he had to have known. And like, he made me like stencil out like Vince Lombardi quotes on like paperboard.

 

Oh, sure.

 

So I hate Vince Lombardi now, like, I hate everything about, but I'm, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try really, really hard. 

 

Yeah. 

 

So one day, it must have been raining or something. We go into the gym class into the gym. And there's this terrible contraption. I tried to look up what it's called. And I still have no idea. 

 

Oh, wow. 

 

It's I've seen it on like football fields. It's like this giant net of type thing. Not one you climb up, but it's just like, like a bunch of squares. And you have to like, like, walk like or, run through the squares. not but not a ladder, just like, like, vertical. It's terrible. And I hate it. And you have to like, run through it and not die. 

 

Yeah, yeah. 

 

And I'm like, this is this is not gonna happen and like ropes like I thought I thought for sure I was gonna die. 

 

Sure.

 

But I did it. I'm super super focused on it. 

 

Yeah. 

 

And I made it through. 

 

Sure. 

 

Okay, so then the next part of this death contraption was there were these cones set up and like and you're supposed to like do this weird side shuffle like through the cones. I have no idea what sadist made up this thing that we all had to go through on this rainy day. Yeah, and so I am like, I'm over exerted from these weird little ropes. 

 

Sure. 

 

Okay. I'm a freshman in high school. I weigh 104 pounds at this point. 

 

Oh, my gooodness

 

I am a tiny little thing

 

Yeah, absolutely.

 

I don't know if I have heatstroke or what? Okay, so I am trying desperately to do this these weird things with my feet. 

 

Sure. Yeah. And that's it. 

 

And that's it. Like I'm doing it. And then then, and then then next thing I know I am on the ground. Oh, and we had to do it all alphabetically, so I'm not gonna say her last name. But I'm gonna say Brenda G. is standing over me. And I'm like, What? And I have no idea. I have no idea what's happened. Like, I'm just on the ground. 

 

Yeah. 

 

And Brenda is like, are you okay? And I'm like, what has happened?

 

How did I get on the ground?

 

I was just so focused on trying not to trip. Yeah, that I don't even know. I just, I just went down. I just passed out.

 

Wow. 

 

And so we don't. So we don't have a school nurse or anything? 

 

No, yes. 

 

I don't know if regular schools have nurses. But mine sure didn't. And this was like the big school we had, like, 500 kids, but still no nurse. 

 

Sure. 

 

And so like, the teacher because he didn't care at all. Like he just made me sit on the side and like Brenda sat down with me for like, maybe 10 minutes. And so I didn't have to do gym the rest of the day but like,

 

Well thats a win. Man.

 

but the whole class the whole class was staring at me. 

 

absolutely just wow, to collapse in the middle of this this death machine. I've got Okay, I've got to ask the question. How did this affect your grade?

 

Did get an A

 

Oh, amazing.

 

By like the skin of my teeth. It was probably like an 89.55 or something. 

 

Wow. 

 

And so I don't know if he just felt bad because I was the girl that passed out in class. And he didn't. Because he didn't . He was not concerned. Like I don't even think he went over and like, said are you okay. Like, just like Brenda, like deal with it.

 

He seems like such a kind and caring person from everything you've said, though. I don't really. 

 

I'm so happy when he went and got another job. 

 

Oh, yeah. I mean, that makes sense from everything you've said.

 

But I did manage to squeak out and it was an A minus but we didn't have like plus or minuses count towards grade point. So it was a 4.0 for me it was it was geometry that eventually did me in But no, I did manage to get an A gym class after I passed out in front of the entire class.

 

So basically what we've what we've landed on is passing out in front of your entire gym class totally, a win.

 

I guess it was kind of near the end of the semester. So, it may have impacted it. I do not know.

 

Who knows maybe is all those Vince Lombardi quotes, quotes you spent hours stenciling 

 

I hated him so much.

 

Do you remember any of them perchance?

 

No. They were just and I'm like, Who the heck is this weird football guy like I don't even know 

 

He does have a trophy named after him. 

 

Sure. 

 

Like the big one. 

 

Okay, yeah. I just knew that I hated everything about that.

 

Thats fair. I don't blame you honestly at that point. Wow. Well he gave you an A to be fair so 

 

I earned that A.

 

Absolutely you you hit the ground straight to that A.

 

I've never taken another gym class in my life. We didn't have to take one in college and we could've taken health instead. And I took health and I got an A in it.

 

Nice. Hey, as long as you had an A in health. That's awesome. So geometry Did you in so you did not end up getting Valedictorian. 

 

No, I was 10th in my class. 

 

Oh my goodness. So all of the Vince Lombardi quotes and the passing out in gym class was ultimately for not 

 

Yes. 

 

Oh, that is heartbreaking. No, I I was really hoping that it'd be like, Oh, I passed out. But then I got an A and I got no, 

 

No. 

 

Dang.

 

I mean, I still got like good college scholarships and stuff. 

 

Oh, sure. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not tied to your your gym grade? 

 

No. 

 

I don't think I think I think any college recruiter would see a D in gym and A's and whatever you got and geometry everywhere else and been like, yeah, okay, I understand. 

 

See, it didn't really count because it wasn't a full half a semester.

 

That's true. Oh, my goodness. Wow. So it really didn't matter. It really didn't matter and you still push yourself to pass out. I mean, hey, I respect that. I you gotta respect the hustle.

 

I hustled so hard. 

 

That's hilarious. You know I I'm going to find out what this rope thing is. I will I will find out. 

 

It is my nightmare. 

 

I hey, it sounds bad. I don't know if it's bad enough to make you almost pass out. 

 

I never saw it before or since. But I don't know. 

 

Wow, Well, when I find it, I'll let you know, I'm gonna do my research, don't you worry about it. Hey, this is editing cutter here I actually did end up finding out what this is. It's called a suspended agility ladder. And it's basically a bunch of rope squares of two of them side by side, and then a line of like eight or nine of them that suspended a few inches off the ground. So that way, instead of a normal agility ladder, you actually have to do high knees to get your feet through them. It's not too complicated, but it did help me understand the story a little better. So it may help you. I showed it to Jamie. And she was extremely pleased that I found it and extremely unhappy to see it again. But that's all I'll let you get right back into the episode. Well, that's amazing. So you, almost you did you passed out in front of your entire class in gym. That may or may not have bumped you up to an A in your hunt for valedictorian that didn't end up mattering because of geometry class.

 

I also didn't do so great in science, chemistry, physics, that kind of stuff. 

 

Eh, that's all right. 

 

Yeah, it wasn't just geometry. 

 

Oh, well, that's okay. Ah we can dream we can dream. We'll blame it on geometry. Amazing.

 

You'll never believe me. But I passed out while giving blood and had to be escorted out of Tally Student Union on a stretcher.

 

So we're theming again. I see. Haha. That's amazing.

 

Yes. So again, I'll just you know, repeat the disclaimer. I have spoken to my doctor about this and it's okay.

 

Sure. Sure. Amazing. I am such a fan of this. So passed out tally Student Union, while giving blood. Yeah, please.

 

Yes. Okay. So it's April of about 2018. So a few years ago, sure. And I have my blood appointment. It's on a Wednesday, it's at three o'clock. And I'm trying to be sneaky, right? So it takes a if you've never given blood, it takes about an hour roughly.

 

Sure I have to interject with a brief brief story. I've tried to give blood twice. And every time when I've sat in that line, and I did it in my high school, I sat in line for like, an hour and a half to give blood. And I was so ready. And so excited. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna help give blood. And I would sit down, they prick your finger, and they do all that stuff. And I sat down. And the last thing they do is take your blood pressure, which, to me feels like the least invasive thing they do. 

 

Yeah. 

 

And you should do that first I would argue. Maybe that's just because every time I've gone to give blood, both those times, I've sat down they've taken my blood pressure and they've gone Nope, can't give blood. I said oh, why? And it's this this tall mean looking Russian lady. And she's like, Oh, your blood pressure is too low. And I was like, too low. She's like, are you, do you play a lot of sports? And you know, in high school, I played sports all the time. I was like, Oh, yeah, I play a few sports. And she was like, too athletic, blood pressure too low. I was like, what does that mean? And I talked to a friend of mine who was running the blood drive. And he was like, yeah, if your blood pressure is too low, we just you cannot get the blood out of you fast enough. And so I have tried to give blood twice and every time I've been turned away because my blood pressure is too low. Which is astonishing. I the second time when I had eaten like a pound of salt the day before I was like I was so ready. Still turned me away,  I was like I don't know what else I can do. So I haven't gone back since anyway so please continue.

 

I've had low iron but I'm all my blood pressure has been fine.

 

Sure. 

 

So I was gonna sneak in at three, sneak out at four and then just go home an hour early right?

 

Yeah, okay. 

 

That is not at all what has happened 

 

Well, clearly no.

 

So I I had parked over where we are in Witherspoon Student Center here on campus and Talley Student Union is our other student center. And it's it's about 700 steps because I have a Fitbit and it's about seven hundred steps down Cates Avenue. And so I parked over by tally so that I would be ready to go home an hour early. And so I stopped and I got an ice cream cone for breakfast. And I love Howling Cow Ice Cream. So that was my breakfast.

 

I wonder if this will play into things

 

It might. Okay, so I didn't stop for lunch though. But like I felt fine. Sure. Like I didn't feel woozy or none of that.

 

You know that they do say you're supposed to eat like full meals before you get blood. 

 

Yes. 

 

Okay. Continue.

 

Yes, that was made very clear to me. Okay, so, every so you know, I go to give blood? sure everything's going fine. You know, I'm squeezing little ball. Everything's great, right? everything kind of starts to get fuzzy. 

 

Oh, that's fun. 

 

And then I come to.

 

Sure. 

 

Okay, so I am I have I am give I'm actively giving blood at this point.

 

Right. 

 

The needle is in my arm. 

 

Okay. 

 

I have passed out on the bed. 

 

Oh my goodness. 

 

With the needle in my arm. 

 

No, no. 

 

Giving blood. 

 

Okay. 

 

Um, you know, all the Red Cross folks are over me. And they are like freaking out. 

 

Sure. Yeah. 

 

Apparently I was non responsive for what they kept saying a significant length of time. And I'm like, What do you mean?

 

Please be specific.

 

I think it was like less than a minute. 

 

Yeah, but that's, I guess I get it from their perspective. 

 

Okay. But still yeah, so I'm like passed out.

 

Like out, out?

 

Yes. 

 

Amazing.

 

And I had actually passed out before while giving blood, but like, after I gave blood, 

 

Sure. I feel like that's what normally happens. 

 

Yeah, not like, while the needle is in my arm.

 

Right. 

 

So they're like, okay, so when this happens, because obviously, this is not the first time this has ever happened to anyone.

 

Of course.

 

They're like, Okay, so we have to call the EMTs it's like our policy. So I'm like, Okay, fine. So I'm still sitting there. And they like, they come and they like, give me like, ice water. They put a fan on me. And like, eventually, they put like this little privacy curtain around. And I'm like, I don't care, whatever.

 

We're too far past this.

 

That was actually after I threw up though. 

 

After?

 

So first I first I passed out and then I threw up and then I'm like, Great. Okay, so I call my roommate. Yeah. Like, they're like, Where are you parked? And I'm like, Well, I'm parked pretty close. And they're like, you know what, it doesn't matter where you parked, We don't think you should drive home. And I'm like, okay, yeah. So I called my roommate. 

 

Sure. 

 

Who is sleeping. 

 

Yeah. Why not? 

 

Doesn't pick up doesn't pick up. And I'm like, cool. So I call my boss who lives right off campus? 

 

Awesome. Yeah. 

 

And I'm like, I passed out while giving blood. And will you like, drive me home? I'm like the EMTs are coming like, I'm fine. It's fine. Like, right, you know, and so he lives right off campus. So he comes to pick me up. And so then the EMTs get there, you know, and they're checking me out and they're like, okay, and they're like, do you want to go to the hospital? And I'm like, No, sir. No, sir. I do not want to go to the hospital. And he's like, okay, so I guess they take my vitals and everything is fine. Yeah. And they're like, okay, we'll let you go. But you have to do one more thing for us. And I'm like, sure, because I just wanted to just go home.

 

Oh, yeah. 

 

And sleep for the whole rest of the night. So the EMT looks at me says, I'm gonna need you to stand up. 

 

No. 

 

And I'm like, Okay. 

 

Yeah, I mean, make sense that you got to check that 

 

I did have a sneaking suspicion as to what might happen next. But I didn't want to say cuz I just wanted to go home. 

 

Right. 

 

So I stand up. Yeah. 

 

Immediately 

 

Immediately pass, right out. My boss had just turned his back for a second to like, check something on his phone. He turns back around. I am on the floor. 

 

Oh, my goodness. 

 

And they are like, so you're gonna go to the hospital now. And I'm like, Ah, yeah, I understand. 

 

Yeah, at that point not much you can do. 

 

Yeah, I understand. So they put me on the stretcher. 

 

Sure. 

 

They must. Like I don't remember. Like going in like the regular elevator. I don't know if like a stretcher would fit in it. I'm sure there is a freight elevator somewhere. 

 

Yeah, that sounds right

 

you know, and the ballroom I was in was on the second floor. So maybe I go through the freight elevator show. Like, they take me out of tally in a stretcher. 

 

Oh my goodness. 

 

And I'm just like, 

 

Hanging out 

 

just like hanging out. They put me in, in the ER and in the ambulance. And my roommate had just called like, right after? 

 

Oh, of course why not?

 

Yeah. And like, Patrick, my boss, he left to go to the hospital, which is actually not the first time he'd ever been to the ER with one of his subordinates. So I knew he was good for it. 

 

Sure. Yeah. 

 

And you know, so my phone rings like the the Red Cross lady picks up the phone. She's like, Hi, this is Jamie's phone. So Jamie had a little incident. Why don't you meet her at Rex? Okay, and I'm like, and I kept saying, okay, like, I understand that. I kept saying, okay, okay. Like, I understand what is happening. I am okay to go to the hospital. 

 

I get it now. 

 

I throw up again in the ambulance. 

 

Oh, why not? 

 

Yeah, of course. They're like, are you nauseous? And I'm like, Yes. And they're like, here have a anti nausea pill and I take it and immediately I throw up again, so there's like vomit on my shirt. And I'm like, my blood pressure kept halving 

 

Oh God.

 

 Which cannot be good. 

 

No, no. 

 

So if it's like 120 over 80 regularly, it kept going to like 60 over 40 

 

That's not

 

And I'm like, 

 

Too different Too different 

 

Yeah. So So, I get to the ER. What's funny is that actually, I hadn't been to the ER in. I don't know 30 some years. Not since I got pneumonia when I was seven and I'm pretty sure I went to the ER then. Although I was seven, so I don't really remember. And I had actually been to the ER that er, about a month prior, there was an incident with my roommate. He didn't get his hand stuck in blinds or anything. A cat scratched him. And so we had to wait in the ER for like an hour. So like, it's not a big deal. 

 

That's what happens.

 

Yeah. When you're in an ambulance, they just take you right in.

 

Yeah, no, there's no waiting. 

 

So yeah, there was no waiting. And so I get there and like my roommate had, like, just gotten there. Apparently, he had like, driven behind the ambulance on the freeway. Anyways, he's like, I bet that's her. 

 

Hahah I wonder if but actually, 

 

Yeah, so 

 

Amazing. 

 

So I had to spend several hours in the ER, cheese and it was terrible. Yeah. And that. And eventually I got to go home, you know, and I sent an email to my boss, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not coming in the next two days. I think you know why, so I just got to like rest, right.

 

Of course. 

 

Yeah. But here's the worst possible part that happened. Okay. Of course. Yeah. So I also teach classes at Durham Tech. Right? Yeah, I teach public speaking. And it was the time of our persuasive speeches. And I had a student give her persuasive speech on giving blood. 

 

Oh, no, yeah, no, no. 

 

So one of we teach, I teach them, you know, to try to give some some novelty facts, like things that will help persuade people and she said, when you give blood, you lose two pounds. And I'm like, I'm giving blood. Like, I'm going to test this theory. Right. So I get on the scale that morning. Uh huh. And I'm like, okay, that's what it is. Like, when I come home I'm going to be two pounds less right? Yeah, I gained three pounds. Because they they put liquids into me and so like all of the things to make sure I didn't die, right. 

 

Of course

 

You know, they just pumped me full of fluids for like two hours right and so I get back on the scale the next day and I'm like, son of a bleep

 

Man what a liar. So not her fault, obviously but

 

So really, I gained five pounds. Because I was supposed to lose to win. I gained three and it was

 

Pissed. Yeah. So money back on that one. 

 

I passed out while giving blood and had to be escorted out of Tally on a stretcher

 

On a stretcher.  That's terrifying. I can't imagine so I've only been in Tally in COVID times when it's very quiet. I can't imagine a busy Tally with someone being wheeled out on a stretcher into an ambulance. I'm sure that didn't cause a scene at all. 

 

I couldn't speak to it because 

 

Sure, sure, naturally, wow. Well, what I wouldn't give to see that happen to somebody as long as they were okay as you are. 

 

Yes, I'm fine. 

 

Amazing. Wow, that two passing out stories. Both Wow. Phenomenal. Thank you, Jamie. Well, those are two wonderful stories about you passing out in less than flattering ways we'll call it but I now have to make my guess between two hilarious stories by the way amazing. So glad that they're like themed and paired together It's so good. But I don't know i'm i'm very compelled by your your memory of high school. I think that was the first thing I noticed was your your hatred and this is probably true either way. I'm gonna assume that your hatred of this Mr. Brown character is true either way. But I'm very compelled by that hatred. And that seems like a story that is you are out of college. You're an adult High School for you was much longer ago than it was for me. And I have trouble remembering High School sometimes. So I feel like a story like that, you know would be would be something that you would only remember if you had that that level of hatred, but I was very compelled by that. However, I do know Talley Student Union. And I do know that they do blood drives there. And with your history of passing out and with what I know about giving blood which is very little to be fair, considering they've never let me give any that seems totally viable. And also really funny. And so I don't know I'm I'm troubled because I think I want to say the first one is true. And I don't know. I don't know exactly why. I think that a lot of that second story is true. I think a lot of the build up of the second story is true. My my best estimation right now is that it happened to someone else. And I think that I even even still, like maybe it was like the other way around. Your roommate went to give blood or something of that effect. But I don't know I'm just I'm much I'm more convinced by your your supreme hatred of everything in the first story then I think I am by I mean the the extremely unfortunate series of events in the second story. So it's gonna be in an unconvinced I'm going to say the first story is true. 

 

Well, the ceiling of Talley Student Union is actually quite beautiful from the viewpoint of a stretcher

 

No

 

being wheeled out of it

 

oh my goodness you got wheeled stretchered out of taTally Student union. 

 

Yes. Oh my god, that is terrible. 

 

I have not given blood since 

 

I don't blame you.

 

But Fun fact, if you are injured in any way, while giving blood, the American Red Cross will pay all your medical bills.

 

Really? 

 

I can confirm. 

 

Ah, well, that sounds lovely. I may have to try to give some blood and get hurt to see that that is terrifying. So how did how did that that high school gym actually go?

 

About 95% of that story is true. So what really happened is during that weird cone shuffle thing, sure. I'm so focused on, you know, doing my best, right? I went down because I tripped over my feet. And so I'm just laying there on the floor. And one of my friends I don't remember who was like watching me like from the sidelines and this other girl that I did not like was like, is she crying? You know

 

Yeah. 

 

And my friend is like, No, she's laughing cuz it was the most absurd ridiculous thing ever. 

 

Oh, sure. Yeah. 

 

And I just like it like, not not like that,

 

Right. No, I understand you just hit the ground and thats it.

 

I did hit the ground. And Mr. Brown didn't care because he's a sadist but I did get an A and but I didn't, I passed out after health class. 

 

Oh ok.

 

One time, okay. That same year, but you know,

 

Was that related to was he talking about blood or anything particular

 

I don't even remember 

 

Interesting

 

I made it through the class. And then I went to my locker. And like, I shared my locker with one of my best friends and she had opened the locker. And then when she shut the locker, I was just on the ground. I pass out sometimes 

 

Happens, you know,

 

I've even passed out like while sitting down. 

 

Really?

 

Yes. 

 

That's astonishing. I feel like that would be hard to do. I'd argue.

 

Yeah, it was after giving blood. 

 

Oh, sure. Of course 

 

This was in the Bragaw activity room in one of the dorms. residence halls at NC State. And I had walked across the room to sit down and one of the comfy chairs and have my oatmeal cream pie. And as soon as I sat down I just like you're just like, the chair like fell back. So I mean, I could have hit my head, but I I didn't.

 

Wow. Wow, I'm glad you got to the seat before that happened. Holy. Yeah. So you really just not a fan of consciousness in general. It seems 

 

I do like to not be conscious. I enjoy sleeping. But yeah, sometimes I pass out. And sometimes I have to go to the ER. 

 

Wow. That's amazing. 

 

Yeah. And I called my mom the next day and I said, so I'm fine. 

 

Yeah, yeah. 

 

You ever ride in an ambulance. Cuz I have

 

Yeah, pretty fun. I don't know actually probably isn't fun, but

 

it really wasn't terrible. Like I was joking. Yeah, with the guy and 

 

Awesome.

 

If anyone's ever been over to Rex hospital, they have these these like balls that are like on the power lines. And it's weird. And they look like Poke balls. And like, 

 

Oh, okay yeah.

 

 I always wondered like, what the heck those things are. And so as we're driving by, you know, before we go into the ER Bay, what are those? 

 

Yeah. 

 

And the guys like, Oh, it's so the the helicopters don't hit the power lines and I was like huh. 

 

Make sense. 

 

Well, I guess this trip is maybe worth it. 

 

Yeah, learn a little something.

 

Because my doctor is over there. And so like i've you know, at least twice a year I go over there and wonder what the heck these things are. 

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

 

So I finally learned. 

 

You learn a little something, get your medical bills covered, give some blood get a few days off work, what's not to love besides the passing out and throwing up part? 

 

Yeah

 

as long as we slip that in at the end.

 

And then the best part was like there was well, not the best part. But there was some kind of like, electronic music show that night at Red Hat amphitheater. Oh, sure. And so people were Outside like, Oh, you know, all the people are at this show getting all drugged up and dehydrated. And I'm like, haha, we gave away tickets to that at the Radio Station.

 

Of course Yeah, naturally. But yeah, geez, that's so funny. Well, as sad as I am I got it wrong. The the Tally story is much more involved. And I'm very curious I would be curious to ask to ask people involved in that story what their memories are because that's amazing. Well, sorry you passed out in Tally. Good thing you didn't pass out in high school gym, I guess? 

 

Yeah

 

win some you lose some 

 

That they would have done nothing for me, Mr. Brown did not care. 

 

I fully believe that part. That part was never in question for me. Oh, my goodness. You know what? I'm gonna say it, Mr. Brown. Your the worst. 

 

He is. 

 

Wow. You're here to hear first, probably not first for you, Jamie. But you heard it here. Well, we are gonna take a quick break. So Jamie can listen to my two stories. And we'll be right back with her guests. Hey, real quick. While Jamie is listening to my stories. If you like the podcast, be sure to hit the subscribe button wherever you're listening, whether that's on Spotify, Google podcasts, or wherever else, you get your podcast, so you'll never miss an episode. Also, just so that you all remember my two stories. Here's a quick recap. In my first story, I had a friend get his hand crushed by the blinds in his dorm room on the night before one of my finals. And I had to take him to the hospital that night, then almost slept through my final the next day. And then my second story, I got to talking to a potential friend in a pre college zoom event, only to find out that it was her mom pretending to be her. But it still worked out because her mom recommended to her daughter that we be friends. Alright, with all that out of the way. Let's jump back into the action. Well, Jamie, you just heard my two stories. And I say just Of course, you've been listening this whole time, and you're on top and kind of in charge of my show at a higher level. So you already know these stories pretty well. But what are your thoughts? 

 

Well, I listened very critically to both stories. And there was a lot of really good details for the first story of you know, taking the friend of the ER, my favorite was the one about him bleeding, but not like a lot bleeding but kind of bleeding.

 

Yeah.

 

That's kind of how you said it. You were like he's bleeding, but not like everywhere, but bleeding. 

 

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't know that there would be a better way to describe an amount of bleeding that he was doing,

 

You know, and you borrow your friend's white car with white interior. And I'm like, man, there's gonna be some blood in there. And I thought that was a really good detail. 

 

Thank you. 

 

But what felt like maybe a tell, for me was the evening the timeframe didn't progress as naturally as I think it would have it from my perspective telling the story. So it's possible that obviously when you're in it, you're not necessarily checking the clock the whole night,

 

and I wasn't Yeah, I I totally understand that. It was definitely light on time and rough on progress on time progression. Yeah, you I will totally agree with

 

You kept saying it's about what 1 am. It's about 1 AM it's about when 1 am and then finally it's about 4am. 

 

Right. Yeah. 

 

And I was thinking well, in theory 

 

What about the time in between though

 

You would've said now It's maybe two, 

 

Right.

 

I mean, and clearly, we knew what was happening during that time.

 

Sure

 

And I was like, Huh. And I think I think that's the tell. 

 

Interesting. Okay. Certainly. 

 

And I loved the story with grace and Grace's mom. And it just, it seemed like a very, pandemic thing to happen. 

 

Yeah, absolutely. 

 

You know, because in one of the other episodes, Amanda talked about how, you know, yeah, it was really important for you to go to this thing. And yeah. I could see a mom saying, No, you can't miss this. But I mean, really, it wasn't that big a deal. 

 

No, not at all. 

 

But you don't know that. 

 

Yeah, no idea going into it. 

 

I know, you're in this this fancy named, you know, program, you want to make sure you want to make a good impression. And to just blow it off just wouldn't seem like the right thing to do. Right. Right. And so I could picture a conversation between grace and her mom and her mom saying, well, I'll just go I just won't say anything. So you'll get the credit for going, you know, and 

 

Right. 

 

And then I could see I could see that sort of unfolding in the next semester.

 

Yeah. 

 

And 

 

it was it No, it is it is a very funny series of events and absolutely a very pandemic II thing to happen. I will totally agree with you there.

 

Yes,

 

I would ask for your formal guess. You've told me several times in in the lead up and in the past few weeks, even of recording this show that you are fully on the story two history train.

 

I am team grace and and i will tell you know those listening at home that it has been so interesting to watch everyone so far pick the same story

 

I am. I'm astonished, honestly. 

 

And then you just react. Just so chill.

 

Thank you

 

where I know you are screaming inside. Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding me? Because one either everyone has found you out.

 

Right? Which is terrible, 

 

Which is terrible or two,  no one has gotten it right which is even worse because your like hahaha

 

Oh, yeah, no, it is it is eating me up inside. And because I don't tell anyone like I, because it's summer I'm at home with my family. I haven't told them. Like I'm keeping this secret from everybody. Because I'm trying to I think there is one person who knows the which one is the real story. Besides, you know, the the people in it. There's one person my my best friend since birth. He knows the real story. And I think no one else does. So it is it is truly eating me up inside. But I think for the sake of the story and the drama, I'm more than willing to keep it a secret until the end of the season. 

 

Yes. And you have given me no hints either way. 

 

Oh, absolutely. 

 

Oh, it's I'm excited to find out who the real person is. I want to meet grace and grace's mom

 

well, if you're right, I'm sure you'll get to. I'm very curious. Do you think? I mean, how long do you think it's going to take before someone guesses that the other story is true?

 

I don't know. There's nothing really wrong with the other story. You know, cuz I'm listening to it. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, that all sounds right. That all sounds you know, and everything is plausible, like.

 

Sure. Yeah.

 

People do stupid things and get their hands hurt. And no, yeah. Other people are like, yeah, just take my car keys, whatever. And I'm like, yeah, then that story checks out.

 

Yeah, that's college. 

 

Um, yeah. And like, Oh, I don't want to go here. Though, and I know that that urgent cares, have weird hours. And like, that was also a little bit weird, but I'm sure there is an urgent care somewhere in this city. That is, yeah, has longer hours.

 

I mean, they that was my exact reaction, honestly, when I looked and I was like, wait, why are you okay? Yeah, I have no reason not to, you know, not to at least check it out on the you know, if at worst, it's still closed, and it's on the way to the you know, we're gonna see Oh, windows closed. All right, go ahead. 

 

Yeah. Because you always want to go to the urgent care instead of the ER because the copay is higher.

 

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very interested to see how it develops. We are you you have been chomping at the bit to share your opinions. And I think every time I come in to record this, you tell me, you tell me more that you're excited to meet grace. And I'm very excited to reveal which is true, which is false come seasons end we're gonna have to wait for right now. Amazing. Well, thank you for your guess. Well, Jamie, thank you very much for joining me. I think we learned that you don't pass out in high school gym class to get valedictorian because geometry will screw you in that anyways. But you will admire the beauty of Talley Student Union from a stretcher. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining me. Where can listeners find more of you 

 

Well, they can find more of my cat on Instagram. He has 2200 followers. 

 

Oh my goodness 

 

@Beerus the Destroyer Cat.

 

Wow. What a name.

 

Named for buress, the goddess of destruction from the Dragon Ball series. 

 

Why not?

 

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